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Glenn Toddun's avatar

Beautifully said!

I think that one of the reasons we don’t do as civic engagement as we could is the that we lack the time. We give so much of our time to work, there is so little time left in a week (especially if it’s your job to feed and maintain a home) to do the other things.

We expect that since we have spent so much time specializing in one area, that we can outsource things like local governance to a third party.

In my perfect world, we would work 3 days, spend 1 day in civic engagement, 1 day with family and friends, 1 day attending to the things that need our attention, and one day of rest.

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Peter Chant's avatar

Interesting observatons on alternatives to maintstream policed societies. Three or four questions/observations come to mind: 1. I understand in the Norwegian criminal justice system the lawyers for both the defendant and the prosecution owe a duty to the court first, and to the cause of justice, rather than to their client. This certainly would change the entire evidential burden...and change outcomes. Is there any evidence that this might change the incidence of criminal behavior -- i.e. a less forgiving but more "just" justice system? 2. I know that Norwegians have access to alcohol, and there is a drug culture, I understand. Is that true of the other culture(s)? It would seem some of the atributes of alcohol consumption I've observed are uncontrolled rage and violence, and policing spends a lot of time where I live in North America dealing with domestic violence often fueled by alcohol. 3. You also do not address the ownership of guns. It appears easy access to guns not only fuels self-harm through impulsive suicides and has its social consequences but it also facilitates interpersonal violence. Any reason you did not address this? Or did I miss it? Finally, Norway benefits from large state-controlled natural resource pools, primarily oil and gas. The State is the capitalist. That makes it easy to distribute wealth more equally. The capitalist model has many challenges, but any model of wealth distribution is easier if you have a lot of it...and in primitive socities in the tropics I'm betting a lot of food literally grows on trees. If so, no food scarcity, and little conflict. Not to mention little need for a notion of private property and disputes over ownership. And it's also related to the measurement of wealth...free goods have no price, despite their value. So "poverty" would be rather ideal. Just a thought.

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